I have 444's on the rear of my 2016 Scout. Like x 3 David Cooper Triumph Rocketeer. However, the progressive fork springs take out the pains of riding. I'll be sure to tell that to my wife. Hey everyone. Ikon points out that their shocks absorbers can be designed with stronger springs and valving to increase comfort and performance over the OEM shocks. Ask Kevin how the his TwoTone feels? I have changed to the Progressive progressive springs and 20w oil; it's much more planted. Save up to 30% when you upgrade to an image pack. If you're patient you can do it without the tool but the tool makes it so much easier for sure..FWIW. You would be better off with a street glide seat vs an ultra seat, I think they sit lower less padding. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. In 2001, Proven signed an agreement with KONI to manufacture the shocks as Ikon Suspension in Australia for the worldwide market. I'm not sure if our weight difference (130# vs. 170#) will make a difference or not for the front. non linear) springs and there's Progressive (the make) springs. Jan 17, 2008 FOG, I'm wondering the same thing. Geared up, I'm 230lbs. i wish i would have went with the mono tubes but didnt have the money at the time, and figured on a brand new bike the stock shock system should be fine Did the 444 super heavy duty 3-4 weeks ago, Big touring, got home called indy told him get the mono's. Come join the discussion about performance, modifications, troubleshooting, purchasing, reviews, accessories, maintenance, and more! I was so worried that it wasn't going to do much so I kept waiting can now go for a long ride after work,instead of waiting till a day after my last work day to ride a bit and lots of ibuprofen. Position 1 is for smooth damping and a solo rider, 2 is for a rider and occasional pillion on average roads, 3 for sporty riding and extra loads and 4 is for touring two-up with luggage. Sets you forward an inch and half inch lower if i remember correct. I might try thicker oil also.. We're over a 1000 into the loop to C6 and the shocks are the best upgrade every done. Yes. The real problem with the damper rod forks is that the damping curve is all wrong being too light/mushy on low speed fork action and too harsh on high speed..the only thing that will fix that is a valving solution like Cogent DDC's or Racetech Cartridge Emulators (and a few other lesser products). Sounds like your buddy has the ultra limited low. Worth Changing? 500+ used, if you find a set. I just ordered a pair of Progressive front springs for my 2017 KLR. It's wrenching season and I am bored. Streudorf 43, 91710 Gunzenhausen, Bavaria Germany. :64a:You might have to put me up for a few days after that though. Nov 20, 2011 yamadog said: I just installed progressive springs and it is a big difference. More interested in handling than price or the effort required to install. Big, clean rooms, excellent breakfast, gluten free options too. IMO IN MEMORY OF Thor 09-08-17 I ordered the lowering set last night. They introduced the 7614 series of modern aluminium-bodied shocks for road bikes, vintage off-road and motocrossers, then added fork springs to its line-up and progressive rate springs are now available. Ultra and ultra limited is the same seat, they do have a different seat on the ultra Low. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. 2008 through 2018 KLR650 Wrenching & Mods, "In a car you're always in a compartment, and because you're used to it you don't realize that through that car window everything you see is just more TV." My buddys seat does have low on the bottom side, and it is the limited. Where the heck is Lodi anyway? Last week I installed Progressive Suspension 1145 fork springs in my other ZR. A forum community dedicated to all Suzuki Strom owners and enthusiasts. Are these springs really that big on a ride difference? I ended up going with constant rate springs and Ricor Intiminators. Any chance we could do this in a few weeks? Just trying to lower the bike. FlyBoy2121 thrasherg Posts: 2123 I am about 155lb without gear. others options?? Old springs had weakened. How much does it sink? JavaScript is disabled. It's all about the ride, the destination just happens .. usually too soon. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Thanks. Oct 23, 2013 So when I replaced my fork seals Rasmith suggested I take the opportunity to replace the stock fork springs with Progressives. 2008 through 2018 KLR650 Wrenching & Mods, KLR & Other Motorcycle Related Discussion, 1987 through 2007 KLR650 Wrenching & Mods. A Progressive Rate Spring has the advantage of a rising rate resistance to compression. Its also now a much safer bike. Marchesini. Marchesini. Rick Awesome! Great, add another mod to the list. This time we ignored the signs and aside from the initial climb it was a lovely ride in early spring countryside. In the back, Progressives 440s are expensive 600+, but IMO worth it. non linear) springs and there's Progressive (the make) springs. Combined, they got me lower. Should I go Tec or Hagon? They suck, bottom out all time, that's just riding myself (215lbs) with 30+ psi in them. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The original ones will buck you off the bike in a good bump. For general use, Ill probably leave it at 3 and hopefully wont have to fiddle around for varying loads. They soak up the initial bumps well and keep the tyre on the ground, which is always handy! Regardless of progressive rate or constant, if you are swapping springs, get a tailored to your weight spring. Due to the design of a progressive wound fork spring it will displace more oil thus requiring a maximum oil level of 5.5 . Generally a set of progressive fork springs coupled with heavier fork oil (to increase damping to offset the heavier springrate) is considered an acceptable budget bandaid for the stock undersprung and underdamped forks. We use cookies to improve your experience on this website and so that ads you see online can be tailored to your online browsing interests. there's progressive (ie. I'm sure it'll make her feel better about gravity. I have one from a generous friend. 1.0 is pretty stiff unless you're over 250. That is a must and probably the cheapest upgrade you can get that will make a difference. Old springs had weakened. On several of the sites, that sell springs, they recommend a spring with a 1.0 tension. I am having a hard time figuring if I should go with the Hyperpro or the Progressive. The sun is hesitant to come out, the graceful branches of the bare trees form a delicate contrast against the faint blue of the sky. :ashamed0001: Cabrito. Custom Eye Candy: An Electric Zero SR-X Concept, 10 Electric Skateboard Brands That Are Killing It, Start typing to see results or hit ESC to close, Rumor Has It: Royal Enfields Got a Hunter 450 On the Way, Bike Of The Day: Custom 1992 Ducati 900SS by Upcycle Garage, Yamaha R1M With Akrapovic Titanium Exhaust, Spy Shots: Isle of Man TT Reveals BMW M 1000 XR, Livery Lookers: 2024 Ducati Hypermotard 950 RVEs New Graffiti Livery Evo, Vintage and Classic Motorcycles Worth Buying, Aprilia All Stars Gives 200,000 to Emilia Romagnas Flood Victims, Yamaha 2023 Tracer 9 GT Sports Tourer Ride Review, Armor, Airbag, Base Layer, & Underwear Reviews, RevZillas Black Friday Sale Starts Early. The first few corners just fell underneath the bike with minimum counter-steering input required. Just couldnt see spending that much on monos when I dont ride as often as I used to. They soak up the initial bumps well and keep the tyre on the ground, which is always handy! I added them to my Sporty. This site uses cookies. Discussion in 'Bonneville' started by Polyphenia, Dec 17, 2018. part for your bike. The range of a replacement progressive spring is around 0.8 to 1.0 so the softest end is equal to the firmest part of the stock springs. on the rear there are many choices progressive and linear, Progressive and other makes. (You must log in or sign up to post here. JavaScript is disabled. Download this stock image: Fork lifter in the distribution center, Pfleiderer AG factory at the headquarters in Neumarkt, Upper Palatinate, Bavaria - C0631M from Alamy's library of millions of high resolution stock photos, illustrations and vectors. ), Thruxton 1200 (2016) Remap Resultes Tec Cam. I can't say I had a problem with the smoothness of the ride. So I will doing my seals as well will I need the castle nut tool? They have now added 3214 mono-tube aluminium-bodied shocks for road and off-road bikes and non-adjustable budget Basix shocks. Santa brought my Progressive fork springs for Christmas to finish out my hybrid fork mods, and the results seemed worth sharing with the group. I put progressive springs on front and progressive 412s on the rear of my 2015. By continuing to browse our site you agree to our use of data and cookies. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. R3Owners.Net is a community of Triumph Motorcycle Enthusiasts, online for over ten years, and fans of the Triumph Rocket III. When you buy through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. The benefit of this is that the spring can be soft enough at the start of the travel to offer a "plush" ride, yet be firm enough at the end of the travel to soak up the big bumps. Come join the discussion about performance, modifications, adjustments, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, conversions, and more! A division of A07 Online Media, LLC. Since the tubes have to come out to replace the seals it is a quick cheap improvement. 400 if you want to be more aggressive. Can not go wrong with Progressive products. I notice that when I ride my bike, with luggage, etc., and apply the front brake it nose dives abruptly. - Pull the fork springs, reinstall the fork cap. Proven then started manufacturing their own line of shocks and springs based on the original KONI formula. Crazy hectic right now. Enjoy banner ad-free browsing with Kawasaki KLR Forum Plus. But this past Jan, replaced the steering bearings and used the teardown to change the fork fluid, flush em out and put new seals. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I have a mostly stock 2013 Gen2 bike (with crash bars, steel footpegs and renthal bars) and contemplating putting progressive springs into the fork. Wanna do em together? A forum community dedicated to Kawasaki KLR 650 motorcycle owners and enthusiasts. progressive fork springs - too soft? My question is that i put pogressive fork springs on my previous harley tourer and i thought the improvement was exceptional. Just kidding. For reference, I weight about 165-170. You dont have to spend a fortune to improve the road manners of your bike. Progressive Suspension Fork Springs Reviews. I get that its newer technology, "big improvemnt," etc, etc. A forum community dedicated to Indian Motorcycle owners and enthusiasts. Have You Ever Sought Technical Advice From Triumph? Front is next with oil when I get around to it. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Jul 20, 2010 I am considering installing the Hyperpro progressive fork springs. I am aprox 5' 7" 73kgs My bike already has a steering damper. What a difference. The springs cost 100$. Ikon Suspension director Geoff Lowe suggested 7614 series dual rear shocks ($682) and a set of their progressive fork springs ($88). Come join the discussion about performance, modifications, troubleshooting, maintenance, and builds for all Indian models. November 14, 2015. Since there has been quite a bit of discussion lately, I thought it might do somebody some good . Problem is thankgiving is insanity in my wife's family, finishing apt paperwork this weekendpacking. After a trip from Sydney to Brisbane when I picked up the bike from its previous owner, I felt like I needed a major neck, back and shoulder massage. JavaScript is disabled. A forum community dedicated to all Harley-Davidson model owners and enthusiasts. Are they worth it? Replacing your 2015-16 shocks with 2017-18 shocks would/is a very viable upgrade. Are you totally happy with the front end since you installed them? While the fork dive is similar to before, the front brakes seem to work better because there is no chattering. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. I used DelRay #7 fork oil, I think. i am preparing to change the fork oil in my 2006 wing well over the winter i brought a set of progressive spring that i was very high on while reading. I got Progressive springs 11-1114, listed for the TT500, based off the technical specs on their website, and installed them this afternoon. 23rd January 2008, 19:40 I just installed some 14.25" 412's and some progressive fork springs with 15w belray oil. The forks from a crashed Diavel will fit. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. there's progressive (ie. Rasmith had recommended the thicker oil and I saw other posts that said the 10w is too light, 15 too heavy, so split them. Standard suspension on most road bikes is usually a compromise. Im 180lbs, never have a passenger, and carry at most 30 lbs on the back. With one inch front and rear, and the seat lower too, it should fit me to a T. If you like your current seat other then the height. The springs are good but you are wasting your time if you don't do a full install. A forum community dedicated to Kawasaki KLR 650 motorcycle owners and enthusiasts. I bought 440 standards and set them at minimum preload. on: January 09, 2017, 02:14:25 pm 1970 CB750K (now an 836) New seals in the forks, new fork tubes, new 15w fork oil and brand new progressive springs. JavaScript is disabled. After expert fitting at Olivers Motorcycles, we set off with the shock rebound set at 4 for sporty two-up riding. I just installed progressive springs and it is a big difference. This range suits the vast majority of riders looking for a firmer spring that can handle a wide range of riding conditions. Retired 1SG US Army, Life: VFW, NRA, NYSRPA(NYS Rifle Pistol Association). Oh my, I couldn't believe the difference on my sore aching hips and lower back from work. As a personal preference, given what you are endeavouring to achieve, I would go for the 7614 series, Geoff told us. Their constant rate makes it easier to get balanced damping throughout the whole fork stroke. I just came up on a refund for some previous shocks I had ordered and it's only 11$ more to just use the It's a three letter word. Appreciate the reply! Come join the discussion about performance, modifications, adjustments, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, conversions, and more! Stiffer, yes, but well worth it. Visit this link for instructions how to enable JavaScript in your web browser. The ride is fantastic, a great improvement over the old. Brett BrettG, Apr 28, 2010 #1 NEWHD74FAN Experienced Member Retired Moderators 8,191 98 19 Every write I have read confuses meIf I need the tool did yours work and would you be willing to loan it to me? IMO. I'm leaking fork oil so it's time. I'm gonna be getting Somme progressives soon as I can, also goin with higher shocks (13"). 1500+ used, if you find a set. This is a complicated topic. Are they any good off road? Is there a brand name to look for that are better than others ? I put Progressive 413s on the rears and it is probably the next cheapest upgrade. So when I replaced my fork seals Rasmith suggested I take the opportunity to replace the stock fork springs with Progressives. However, the progressive fork springs take out the pains of riding. 200lbs, solo rider, 07 Classic, novice rider. Comfort, support and responsiveness over the range of normal conditions are achieved. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Nice find. I weight 130# and about 25% of the time have a passenger. A set of new Progressive fork springs made a big difference on my early 2014. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. thinking i would change springs out this summer, well i have a friend that replaced the oil and kept the stock springs, plus put a set of fork braces on after completing the job, he stated that h. Apr 26, 2008. The emulators have valves in them with a small adjustable spring that controls the flow of fork oil for bounce and recoil. Absolutely worth it. PM me. Thanks in advance. When you buy through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission.Copyright ThumperTalk, Inc. - All rights reserved.ThumperTalk is a registered trademark. $57.95 from MAW well worth it! This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. My knuckles turned white from hanging on. I have a 2017 T120, a few months ago I replaced the rear shocks with Hagon Nitros and the handling is so much better. Yes the stock springs are progressive but too soft. Since the tubes have to come out to replace the seals it is a quick cheap improvement. Air is no longer required, these springs restored bike height. The rear shocks have four positions of rebound adjustment with clicks in between each number for fine tuning. Riders can expect a better ride quality on bumpy roads, lighter and more direct steering, better braking and improved acceleration. What are your opinions. Your gonna hate those SG shocks. I have a set of the super heavy duty, since im fat, amd love them i would say a better shock for the money, unless you find a set of take offs pretty cheap. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. We have produced a large range of items over the years that accommodate pillions, extra heavy loads, added sidecars, etc. Yes the stock springs are progressive but too soft. Which is just a harley reach seat. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Ask Kevin how the his TwoTone feels? Even if you are not a rider, all Triumph Enthusiasts are among friends. The original ones will buck you off the bike in a good bump. I finally was able to find some green,and changed the rear shocks to progressive 444!!!! I wouldn't bother with a generic OEM if your going to switch springs personally. How much does it sink? The newer shocks have the progressive springs. VDOMDHTMLtml> Triumph Bonneville T120, Suspension Upgrade, Progressive Fork Spring's from TecBikeParts, Worth It ? I got them for $67 on e-bay and replacement was a breeze (the seals took some figuring out, and at first I thought I messed up and that they leaked - but turns out I used so much grease it didn't let the seal touch enough - after me compressing the forks a couple times the "leak" was fixed). At Progressive Suspension we always want to be sure that you get the perfect
In a wordyes. Learn more about us. The springs cost 100$. However, even a budget set of fork springs and rear shocks or a mono shock will make a substantial improvement. Slight thread hijack, I've got YSS shocks on my Bonnie, ride seemed much improved but I noticed if I bounce on the seat they make a noticeable clunk, don't seem to be bottoming out, and as I say the ride seems ok, just wondering if yours did that? Our reviews are hands-on, detailed, and unbiased. I have a 2017 T120, a few months ago I replaced the rear shocks with Hagon Nitros and the handling is so much better. AhhhggrrR!!!!!!!!!! I ride easy gravel roads with a few water bars and rocks. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Took the bike on a 5000mi trip to Alaska and back in full gear with about 100lbs of camping gear, clothes, fishing gear, water, etc. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. I'm getting ready to put new fork seals in my 05. I also used Amsoil (synthetic)10W fork oil a 9" height with the spacers cut to 6 29/32". Rear suspension #1 of 1 lodge in Gunzenhausen. I put Progressive fork springs with 20wt oil right away. Previously the bike felt nervous. its all because the tyres are now gripping the road more than bouncing off it. I planned on switching to these and at the same time putting in 12.5 or 15 wt oil. Read and compare owner reviews & ratings of Progressive Suspension Fork Springs. The SG shocks were the first thing I bought. Read here about our decision on progressive versus linear springs. Although our shock absorbers can be designed for extra heavy loads in most cases; we must point out for safety reasons that the customer should be aware of the manufactures recommendation for load capacity and should still adhered to that load capacity or consult further with a motorcycle engineer., (Ikon Suspension supplied the shocks and springs for free.). It was so tight I had to spray the tube out with a hose to get rid of all the metal shavings. RiderForums.com - Kawasaki Motorcycle Forum. Progressives and a little heavier new oil will reduce that by at least 50%. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. 2 night stay for business, the room was very big, with ample hanging space for clothes, a dedicated shelf for your suitcase, a shoe mat and a large double bed. Britbike forum member. In the back, Progressives 444s are expensive 600+, but IMO worth it. No more stiffy -- just smooth and still using the stock spacer. And very inexpensive too! I vouch hard for the 413s. Plus it kept the tire glued to the ground, and stopped the bouncing ball effect of the interstate bumps. They are a compromise and are a bit tougher to get damped just right because damping needed varies as the spring changes from soft to hard as it compresses. Progressives and a little heavier new oil will reduce that by at least 50%. Ikon Suspension has done a great job of turning a very basic-handling bike into one which will carve trough the mountain twists without breaking my back when I hit those ubiquitous lumps and bumps. The straight rate springs are better if you ride with mostly the same loads and surfaces. Louisiana roads suck under the best of circumstances, but there are some that are downright dangerous on a bike. 200lbs, solo rider, 07 Classic, novice rider. Ohlins fork springs = 10% harder than stock, but it is enough/worth it? Progressive Rate Fork Springs have several advantages over straight rate springs. by FlyBoy2121 Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:50 pm I Auggie I have to change for spring, ca work much better, it can absorb the drop of the road, you will not regret it. Another thing to remember, make sure you measure your shocks on the back and make sure when you buy new shocks, you get the correct length. i have them in my 2013 ultra, I think it rides much better over stock, almost no brake dive now, as where the stockers would almost bottom out when i hit the brake hard. Those AND lowering blocks didnt do what this seat has done. Did my own labor to install. Would it be as good as the progressive rate approach? Enjoy banner ad-free browsing with Kawasaki KLR Forum Plus. the outside diameter of the coil is the same, the diameter of the wire is the same and the spacing between coils is the same, except the progressive spring gets tighter coils as you go down it's length. Re: Progressive Fork Springs. Enjoy banner ad-free browsing with Harley Davidson Forums Plus. It is time for me to replace the stock front fork springs. Maybe give these guys a call>. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Anyone run the full length progressive suspension fork springs? When it comes to the GT1000 we have certainly found the results using progressive rate springs to be most impressive, Geoff says. http://www.harley-davidsonforums.coprogressive-444hd-hd-fork-spring-install.html. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Im trying to decide whether to go that way, or use the regular ones and do a complete tear down and re-build. Stopped the big time nose dive under hard braking. Stock pre-2014.5 fork springs are said to be .40 kg/mm which is way too light for most people (opined to be for a 160lb load). Progressive springs are variable from .40kg/mm to .60kg/mm according to their website. This range suits the vast majority of riders looking for a firmer spring that can handle a wide range of riding conditions. wBW providessubjective opinionsand information on hard-to-find and unique motorcycling products. I'm 6'3" 180 Lbs and I don't carry a passenger and, I am curious if I should go with 10wt or 15wt oil, I have found the following quite useful when shopping for fork oils:Fork Oil Viscosity Chart Fork oils can be compared well by their 40C viscosity (Centistoke value). Progressive rate springs work better for riders who change from solo to fully loaded on a regular basis or ride on a wide variety of different road surfaces. No more bottoming out with that hopping feeling when hitting a bump in a curve. Big difference. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. nothing "wow" but a bit more comfortable on the sharp hits. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. #1 KLRscoob Been here awhile Joined: Jan 18, 2008 Oddometer: 296 Location: San Diego CA I am 200lbs and feel the need to improve the forks. Grab you front brake as you push the bike forward. If none of that works, I may have to look into different forks that actually work. I took it to the dealership and they were cool enough to loosen it for free. Since the tubes have to come out to replace the seals it is a quick cheap improvement. Initial force meets less resistance but gradually meets more resistance as force increases. Im going to find a seat from an Ultra Limitedits built lower, and put SG shocks on the rear. The front wheel chattered over bumps and there was violent headshake. I found my old post about installing the Progressive fork springs. Progressive Rate Fork Springs have several advantages over straight rate springs. I have used both types. On road feel was definitely improved, particularly over the . I have a 2002, am 220 lbs, stock rear shock. - Flush gunk out of fork valves with ATF (automatic transmission fluid) and spray brake cleaner several times, pump forks vigorously to circulate cleaning agents.